Kronos 2 Years On....

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Kronos 2 Years On....

Unread post by Derek » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:22 am

It's hard to believe I have owned this amazing keyboard for two years now! 8O

After an initial programming flurry in autumn 2014 (as a "getting to know you" period!) in the AL-1 (Analog synth) and HD-1 (Sample and Synthesis) engines for a synth pop act that sadly never came off and then setting it up for some Pink Floyd greatness in Welsh Floyd, I haven't done much else other than play it (which it is of course great for!).

My tenure in Welsh Floyd is coming to an end in a few months (long story), and I want to get back into some serious composing and progressing my own music again, which has been neglected for a few years.

So as a second step (first step was the Line 6 Helix for my guitar :) ) I have spent the past week gathering together the sound banks I have accumulated for the Kronos over the two years and have managed to squeeze them into two "PCG" files (PCG is Korg's disk storage format), so I have all the sounds at my fingertips ready for some serious inspiration and composing. So that is 2560 (128*20 banks) patches in each one!

In going through and auditioning the sound libraries again to pick the ones to start with, I am reminded why I purchased this beast in the first place. It is a monster in terms of capability, and it's now great to have all the libraries together in order so I can now get what I want more easily.

All of the sound engines are well represented in these banks, but of note are the ones devoted to Wave sequencing, which is a HD-1 capability. I even found a bank where somebody has recreated the original Wavestation sounds and compared to my Wavestation plugin it is pretty spot on. The Kronos has the Wavestation waveforms but the creator of the sound set had to recreate the original wave sequences.

And in all of this I had one really unexpected jaw dropping moment.:) I was taken aback this year when somebody on the Yamaha AN1x Yahoo group uploaded a new set of sounds and in that set he had pretty much nailed the Vangelis CS80 lead "brass" sound prominent on BladeRunner (you know, the one where he puts a lot of pitch bend downwards on to simulate Doppler shift). Nailing that on an AN1x was an amazing achievement in my opinion, and a testament to how brilliant the AN1x still is, given that the CS80 is unique. But imagine my surprise when going through a patch set of AL-1 sounds in the Kronos, and I found that somebody has done the same on a Korg! 8O They may not be 100% facsimiles but they are pretty darn close. The same guy also got the Vox Humana sound from the Polymoog - so favoured by Gary Numan.

So I look forward to getting inspired by this amazing machine again. With autumn well and truly set in here now and the dark evenings, it is time for serious time in the studio.

What has also amazed me over the two years is the support that Korg have provided. As well as periodic OS updates, when the Kronos 2 came out, my Kronos X had a free OS 3 update so I effectively have a Kronos 2.

Looking at the Workstation market, the Kronos still seems to be in a field of its own and with its multiple integrated sound engines, I still see it as the successor to the EX5 concept.
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Re: Kronos 2 Years On....

Unread post by Saul » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:17 pm

It says something when no other manufacturer have come even close to the standards set by Korg with the Kronos. They really did know what they were doing when they brought out such a endlessly versatile keyboard. It's the sort of thing where you could spend a lifetime with it and still be discovering new things. So it may be expensive...although no more so than other flagship keyboards but you certainly do get your money's worth.

I'm wondering if Montage will show the same versatility and longevity?
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Re: Kronos 2 Years On....

Unread post by jima » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:37 pm

Derek, please don't do that! Oh gosh, too late, gas gas gas gas gas gas gas gas gas....
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Re: Kronos 2 Years On....

Unread post by Derek » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:42 pm

Saul wrote:It says something when no other manufacturer have come even close to the standards set by Korg with the Kronos. They really did know what they were doing when they brought out such a endlessly versatile keyboard. It's the sort of thing where you could spend a lifetime with it and still be discovering new things. So it may be expensive...although no more so than other flagship keyboards but you certainly do get your money's worth.

I'm wondering if Montage will show the same versatility and longevity?
Yeah, I still think there is nothing to touch it in terms of what it provides, and Yamaha have effectively vacated the concept. The Montage is not a workstation (its a performance synth) and although it has two sound engines they are effectively fixed. It is currently unknown if Yamaha have the means to add more to it. Korg's big advantage of course was basing the Kronos on a computer architecture, so can update it in any way they wish so long as the horse power of the motherboard is sufficient.

I will be checking the Montage out at some point (hopefully when some performance related share options I have mature next year!) to see if it replaces my EX5 as a keyboard to complement the Kronos (I will then get an EX5 rack for studio use).
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Unread post by Derek » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:42 pm

jima wrote:Derek, please don't do that! Oh gosh, too late, gas gas gas gas gas gas gas gas gas....
Jim needs a Kronos, Jim needs a Kronos, Jim needs a Kronos........

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Re: Kronos 2 Years On....

Unread post by Miks » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:46 pm

Derek wrote:Jim needs a Kronos, Jim needs a Kronos, Jim needs a Kronos........ :D
That's NOT fair... :mrgreen:
My (key related) gear (in alphabetical order):
Kawai: K1 II
Korg: M1 (up'd to EX, w/ 'Cool Blue'), M1REX (w/ 'Cool Blue'), Poly-800
Roland: D-50, D-110, D-550, PG-1000
Yamaha: AW1600, DX7IID (w/ 'Cool Blue'), EX5R, RM50, RX5, SY99 (w/ 'Cool Blue'), TG500, TX-802, YMM2
Sector101: SYEMB05 (5x), SYEMB06 (3x), EXFLM2 (1kit), MCD Sweet16 (1x), WaveBlade 8MB Card (1x) & 1x Programmer Unit for WaveBlade

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Re: Kronos 2 Years On....

Unread post by Derek » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:02 pm

Well, I managed to get Jim onto the Nord G2.... :D

Such a busy boy needs a Kronos as a toy as well.

Just getting a nice ambient idea together with the Kronos, the SY99 and the AN1x. Will see how that comes together.....
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Re: Kronos 2 Years On....

Unread post by AJay » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:57 pm

Saul wrote:I'm wondering if Montage will show the same versatility and longevity?
Plug a PC into its USB port and VSTi Bob's your Montage's uncle. :)
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