Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

This section is dedicated to players of electric guitar. From beginner to expert and all in between. Everyone is welcome here.

Moderators: Buzzard, parametric, Derek, Saul

User avatar
Saul
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 6810
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:00 am
Location: Nr London, UK
Contact:

Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby Saul » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:35 pm

I was just looking at the Eclectic Guitar category on the forum and thought maybe it might be a good idea to have a seperation of the Yamaha from the non Yamaha guitars and amps? However that brings up the question of whether to separate as individual model lines or lump all Yamaha guitars into one Yamaha section? Would appreciate your thoughts.


User avatar
Buzzard
Specialist Moderator
Specialist Moderator
Posts: 1292
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:38 pm
What Country Are You In: Denmark
Location: Humlebaek , Denmark
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby Buzzard » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:47 pm

Personally, I think it works fine as it is ... BUT ...

Look at it from the view of a new member, or a reader considering to become a member: How easy is it to navigate here ?

Most topics, however are Yamaha guitars and amps, but often with other brands thrown in when showing the collection.

Hopefully the "String Section" will chip in with their thoughts, any idea is WELCOME.

Regards
Peter

Image Image


Yamaholic, Guitars, Amps and Bikes. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7004
User avatar
Saul
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 6810
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:00 am
Location: Nr London, UK
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby Saul » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:06 pm

Lovely selection of guitars there Peter! :)

I can see it might be confusing for new members or people browsing for info. I might start by creating a 'Pacifica' section and go from there. Of course creating sections for every guitar can be counterproductive as it can work out being more confusing than just having one section.


NYGeorge
Member
Member
Posts: 115
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:26 pm

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby NYGeorge » Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:05 pm

Saul
You said you were looking at the Eclectic Guitar section. Did I miss something?
How about 2 sections one for 'vintage' and one for modern with maybe a cutoff year of 1990 for vintage. I don't have any issue with the way it is now but just a suggestion.


User avatar
Buzzard
Specialist Moderator
Specialist Moderator
Posts: 1292
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:38 pm
What Country Are You In: Denmark
Location: Humlebaek , Denmark
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby Buzzard » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:05 pm

GEORGE :!: :D

Good to see you again :D

I wonder if you've pulled the trigger for a guitar lately :?:

As it is now, once a guitar related topic pops up, new or old, there's (thankfully) always respons from the "string section".

When the topic has been debated, it slips (almost) out of sight and out of mind, and can be a bit hard to find again,
but often comes back whenever someone has something to add, or a new member googled us.

At the moment the electric guitar section is a fine mess of guitars, amps and pedals/gadgets.
Maybe it needs to be broken up into bits/sections for easier indexing ? more sub categories under electric guitars ?

The keyboard section has for a long time had MANY sub categories, and the acoustic guitars too.

I don't have have the answer yet, and everybodys ideas are welcome.
When Saul gives this opportunity to influence the forum, lets start a brainstorm .... some of it is bound to work. :wink:

Some ideas for categories: :idea: Amps/cabinets/preamps :idea: pedals/effects/gadgets/gear :idea:
Guitars: :idea: Yamaha/non Yamaha :idea: age: vintage/modern :idea: body type: solid/semi acoustic :idea: style: rock/jazz/blues :idea:
Model: :idea: SG , Pacifica , Revstar , AES , AEX , FZ , Weddington , AE , SA .......... you name it. :oops: :oops: :idea:

Splitting guitars up into all these subcategories is probably too confusing ...... those are only examples, but let's talk about it. 8)

Regards
Peter


Yamaholic, Guitars, Amps and Bikes. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7004
NYGeorge
Member
Member
Posts: 115
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:26 pm

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby NYGeorge » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:02 pm

Buzzard
I've been out of the guitar loop since mid March. Been building a walk through Halloween maze in a big barn down the road. All done now.and yes I did pick up a YSG from Evilbay. Should be here in a couple days. Pics to follow.
A separate section for amps and for effects makes sense. As for non Yamahas not so much. This is a Yamaha board after all. And ,as I posted, a vintage/modern separation might be nice. I'm really just happy that there is a place for us here.


User avatar
Buzzard
Specialist Moderator
Specialist Moderator
Posts: 1292
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:38 pm
What Country Are You In: Denmark
Location: Humlebaek , Denmark
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby Buzzard » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:29 pm

For Ideas on how to sort out the guitars, I would like Bill to join with ideas. :D Everyone else is WELCOME to chip in as well. :D

George's idea of dividing into vintage and modern is pretty good,
but some models will be in both categories since they were produced before and after the timeline.
How do we deal with this ?




AMPS: for the amps, let's keep an open mind and have categories for other brands too. (maybe only one for ALL other brands ? OR one for EACH brand ?)

When it comes to Yamaha amps, I think they can be broken down to MODEL sub categories: THR , DG , G , JX , TA , RA , T , TU ..... and more as it grows.



For the effects/pedals and other gear, do we keep it all in one "bundle" ? , or do we split it into Yamaha and non Yamaha , and do we need to have sub categories here ?



Gentlemen , join the brainstorm. :wink:

Regards
Peter


Yamaholic, Guitars, Amps and Bikes. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7004
User avatar
parametric
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 2044
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:00 am
What Country Are You In: United Kingdom
Location: Near Watford, UK
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby parametric » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:28 am

Many considerations involved in this task . . . .Especially if it will extend to non-yamahas

I would suggest THREE main headers ACOUSTIC (including classical and nylon strung) SOLID and SEMI-ACCOUSTIC

admittedly there are nomenclature issues too: - is SEMI-SOLID a classification, or is it nomenclature of a specific brand? . . . .
Perhaps the Les Paul is considered "semi-solid"?

Then sub classes: BASS (including 5 & 6-string variants) and THE REST (non-bass) (6 and 12-string)

Naming conventions: Some use NAMES i.e. Pacifica and some use Number designations i.e. GX-1 - and probably some use both or either . . .

Reconciling this lot is going to take some designing . . . .

Just a few ideas

parametric


Alesis Fusion 8SSD AND 6SSD - BOTH are 384Mb/120Gb SSD/Akai ADVANCE61/Yamaha MOXF6/1024Mb Flash Ram/Yamaha SY85/8.5mb vol/1024k non-vol/DX21/Roland MT32/Bachmann double overstrung Baby Grand Piano/Win10 Pro/Ubuntu MATE 15.0.4/iBook G4/Mac OS 10.4.6/ProTools 7.4/MBox2/M-Audio 24/96 Sector101 2x SYEMB06 / 4 x EXM-E3 128MB DRAM Module
Oh, and a Roland LAPC1 (MT32-on-a-card) which I can't use anymore - it is a full length 8-bit ISA card ;-)
BRAND NEW DSDD (720k) FLOPPY DISKS FOR SALE - viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9217

Watch out now! take care, BEWARE of the greedy leaders! They'll take you where you should not go - (George Harrison)

IT'S TRUE - "MONEY TALKS" - TO ME, IT MOSTLY SAYS "GOODBYE" ;-)
http://www.chrisnmiller.co.uk/Chris
jeff-carolina
Member
Member
Posts: 213
Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:44 pm
Location: S. Carolina_USA

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby jeff-carolina » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:52 am

Saul,
I have spent much time scrolling through the different categories in this forum and enjoying listening to posted music/thoughts etc. I personally spend the majority of my time in the electric guitar/bass section. My personal opinion is don't fix the working machine.

Jeff


Daviedawg
Member
Member
Posts: 387
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:54 am
Location: North East Scotland

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby Daviedawg » Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:58 am

My motto generally in life is to leave working things alone. But that goes all wrong when it comes to my bikes, amps and guitars!

But I am ok with this site staying as it is but also ok if it gets updated.

Dd


Yamahas:
SF500 Sunburst three colour Aug 1978
FZ1000 Black Sharkfin offset vee July 1986
SC400 red transparent 1982
Fazer 600cc gold and black 2000 25,000 miles and rising. Sorry 30,000 miles.
User avatar
Buzzard
Specialist Moderator
Specialist Moderator
Posts: 1292
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:38 pm
What Country Are You In: Denmark
Location: Humlebaek , Denmark
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby Buzzard » Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:19 pm

How about a gentle start, separating Electric BASS from the guitars ?

It could be just one topic in one (Bass) subcategory, or two topics: Bass and Bass Amps.

For you who like the forum as it is, I'm listening, only trying changes that can be removed again, if it turns out not to be an improvement.

Regards
Peter


Yamaholic, Guitars, Amps and Bikes. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=7004
User avatar
parametric
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 2044
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:00 am
What Country Are You In: United Kingdom
Location: Near Watford, UK
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby parametric » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:49 pm

That seems a good plan Peter . . . .

Thinking about it - people are (usually) either bassists OR guitarists - so the field is straightaway divided in half . . . .

(forget my earlier suggestion separating 4,5 and 6-string . . . surely they'll be fine all together in BASS?)

AMPLIFICATION (IMO) probably needs its own forum with subs for GUITAR, BASS, PA and not forgetting KEYBOARD . . . . ?
Probably simplest to include ALL Brands in the one place for the time being at least.

As for the Guitars - I'm still thinking that "Master-Forums" based on TYPE seems a good way to go (Acoustic, Electric, Semi-Acoustic) with subforums for BRANDS, if thought necessary?

What do you think?

parametric


Alesis Fusion 8SSD AND 6SSD - BOTH are 384Mb/120Gb SSD/Akai ADVANCE61/Yamaha MOXF6/1024Mb Flash Ram/Yamaha SY85/8.5mb vol/1024k non-vol/DX21/Roland MT32/Bachmann double overstrung Baby Grand Piano/Win10 Pro/Ubuntu MATE 15.0.4/iBook G4/Mac OS 10.4.6/ProTools 7.4/MBox2/M-Audio 24/96 Sector101 2x SYEMB06 / 4 x EXM-E3 128MB DRAM Module
Oh, and a Roland LAPC1 (MT32-on-a-card) which I can't use anymore - it is a full length 8-bit ISA card ;-)
BRAND NEW DSDD (720k) FLOPPY DISKS FOR SALE - viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9217

Watch out now! take care, BEWARE of the greedy leaders! They'll take you where you should not go - (George Harrison)

IT'S TRUE - "MONEY TALKS" - TO ME, IT MOSTLY SAYS "GOODBYE" ;-)
http://www.chrisnmiller.co.uk/Chris
jeff-carolina
Member
Member
Posts: 213
Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:44 pm
Location: S. Carolina_USA

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby jeff-carolina » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:59 pm

That certainly is a sensible start Peter.

Jeff


balston11
Member
Member
Posts: 403
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:03 pm
Location: Preston UK
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby balston11 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:14 am

Firstly sorry for taking so long to reply to this and to Buzzard's email request. I'm in Australia and this is the first decent wi fi I have had for over a week. I would certainly separate out amps and effects from guitars. I would like to see then just two categories. Just Yamaha and non Yamaha I dont think this is a busy enough forum to have too many categories. I don't think there are enough posts on bass guitars for a separate category.


Bill
Web http://www.alston-family.co.uk for lots of Yamaha and other guitar information
User avatar
Saul
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 6810
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:00 am
Location: Nr London, UK
Contact:

Re: Thinking about separate sections for "Yamaha" guitars?

Unread postby Saul » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:57 am

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll be perhaps implementing some of them today.

I don't think it would be useful to fragment things too much. The problem as I see it is we "could" have categories for lots of different guitars, amps, effect etc but many of those will see very little activity and as a result new members arriving who have an interest or question about some of these things may look and see low activity and decide to post in the general category instead in the hope of increasing the chance of a reply? This is why some of the forums sections don't really work.

Looking at the stats for the site and the forum in particular we get a lot of traffic through the guitar section, far more than any other part of the site so I do think it's important that we at least give it room to grow.

Perhaps we need to look at what we have now. See what are the most popular subjects and then create categories for those because at least we know the traffic won't drop and probably has a good chance of increasing? Certainly there is a lot of interest in vintage Yamaha guitars so we could definitely do something there. I'm not sure what the cut off point would be in terms of what is considered "vintage" but there obviously has to be one so will leave that to you guys to decide.

Perhaps we could start off with 'Yamaha Vintage Guitar Forum' as a category and then make sections for the most popular "ranges" of vintage Yamaha as well as a general section for those not covered by a dedicated one?

Got to go and do the day job right now but will come back to this later today.



Return to “Electric Guitar, Amps & Effects”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest