Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

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Re: Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

Unread postby SeaGtGruff » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:25 am

Yes, it looks very interesting! Much of the internet's buzzing is about how much it's going to cost. Let's hope it's going to be priced in keeping with Behringer's philosophy of "twice as much for half the cost."
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Re: Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

Unread postby elwoodblues1969 » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:00 am

SeaGtGruff wrote:Yes, it looks very interesting! Much of the internet's buzzing is about how much it's going to cost. Let's hope it's going to be priced in keeping with Behringer's philosophy of "twice as much for half the cost."


Well....there was a rumor,that it would go for 500 euro(which I think is absolutely absurd)...being that,the materials are wood & metal,it being true analogue synth,it having 12 note stereo polyphony and also having quite a generous display.In the "First Look" video,the developers said it would be priced competitively(Which I take to mean,that it will compete against the likes of Dave Smith Instruments)....so if this Behringer synth is half the cost of a Dave Smith synth equivalent,then this synth would be a steal.
My estimate,would be around $1,500(USD)...perhaps slightly less.

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Re: Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

Unread postby tux » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:32 am

I might have finally found the synth that will replace my Juno-106!

But I will be waiting for the desktop/rack version of the DeepMind12 that will likely be released at a later date.
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Re: Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

Unread postby elwoodblues1969 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:38 pm

tux wrote:I might have finally found the synth that will replace my Juno-106!

But I will be waiting for the desktop/rack version of the DeepMind12 that will likely be released at a later date.


If I may ask,since you have a keyboard(the Juno-106) and you intend to replace it,with the Behringer synth,why opt for a rack version?Where's the fun in that?I mean,you might as well just buy some software that has a similar sound,no?I myself,currently have a Nektar LX88 midi controller and a vast library of soft-synths...but I still long for the thrill of having hardware keyboards in my studio(which is why I will be buying the Yamaha MXOF and eventually,the DeepMind12 synth.)

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Re: Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

Unread postby tux » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:13 pm

I don't use soft-synths at all for many reasons (this is not the place to go into detail about those reasons).

I prefer the DeepMind12 as desktop/rack version rather than the keyboard version because I already have one controller keyboard and I don't have space for several keyboards. In fact for this reason my Juno-106 is stored away in a cupboard as it's to bulky for the space I have. The only reason I still keep it is because I love how it sounds, but if the Deepmind12 can do similar sounds (on Gearslutz Uli Behringer himself said that the Deepmind12 has the same filter design as the 106) then I can part with the Juno without regrets.

Here is how the desktop/rack version will look (according to Uli Behringer):
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Re: Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

Unread postby Derek » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:19 pm

tux wrote:I don't use soft-synths at all for many reasons (this is not the place to go into detail about those reasons).


Maybe a topic for another thread (but it has been quiet lately ;) ) but I am intrigued why not, as you are missing out on some great synths. :)

I've opened a thread over here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8847 If it is worthy of friendly debate. :)
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Re: Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

Unread postby elwoodblues1969 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:11 pm

Well....as I had suspected,here is the official price and approximate release time of the Behringer DeepMind12 synth(directly from the mouth of Uli Behringer;

"Dear all,

again sorry to keep you waiting with the price announcement. I am aware I may have lost some friends in this process:-)

Please allow me to explain the reason why this has taken so long:

We are a very different company as we don't set pricing based on what we believe a customer would be willing to pay for our product, or where competitive products are priced at.
We simply set pricing based on a "bottom up" approach where we calculate the component prices, add manufacturing cost plus a slim margin that we need to in order to hire more people and buy new equipment.

Because of the huge demand for the DeepMind12, we went back to our component suppliers and asked for a higher discount in return for higher purchase volumes. We then approached our distribution partners again and asked what their orders would be, if we would lower pricing. We did this a few rounds until we reached rock bottom pricing. And that’s where we are now.

During the development of the DeepMind12, we involved a lot of synthesizer experts, producers, musicians but also synth magazines. Of course, we were constantly asked what the price would be, but at the same time repeatedly told not to make it too affordable as otherwise the public perception of the instrument would be impacted.
Since the competition sits around US$ 2,000, the general recommendation was not to offer it below US$ 1,500 and everyone would be happy.

As you all know, I built my first synthesizer UB1 (picture attached) when I was 16, but it unfortunately got lost during an office relocation and for the following 40 years I always wanted to build a synth again.

Some years ago our amazing people and world-class engineers at Midas in Manchester learned about my dream and decided to actually built a synthesizer for me.
Initially the synth started as a Juno 106 inspiration but later literally grew into a monster as our guys kept on adding features on a weekly basis (I am sure they are still adding more).
I mentioned earlier, if there is a product that deserves the name “feature creep”, then it’s the DeepMind12 and I am absolutely serious!

Since I started Behringer 27 years ago, my philosophy was always to offer amazing products at incredible prices and that’s what we built our company on.
In this spirit, it is no surprise that I also like to see this synth in the hands of many of you guys and hope the DeepMind12 will inspire you as much as it inspires me. I can’t wait to hear the great songs you will compose and share with the community.

I have now made the decision to offer the DeepMind12 at a recommended sales price of US$ 999.99 (I have a feeling your dealer might drop the 99 cents).*

Getting this instruments into the hands of as many musicians as possible is a dream come true. At the risk of being ridiculed for showing my emotions, this is a very happy moment in my life and I like to thank first and foremost my friends Pete Sadler, Rob Belcham and all our incredible crew in MUSIC Innovation Manchester plus all other 4,000 people in MUSIC. I will never forget this.

We are planning to ship the first units towards the end of the year. While we will do everything we can do ramp up production, please be patient as we don’t know yet how we can fill all these backorders.

Once again thank you all – you guys are great!"

Uli

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Re: Behringer DeepMind 12 Analogue Polyphonic Synth

Unread postby SeaGtGruff » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:02 pm

The MSRP is always a bit higher than the actual store price, at least here in the USA for Yamaha's keyboards. I'm curious to see what the USA stores will offer it for. One major chain has reportedly placed a large order for the DeepMind12, but I haven't seen any stores advertising it for preorder yet. Given the amount of buzz that DeepMind12 has generated, and the rapidity with which stores start advertising instruments for preorder after they're announced at shows like NAMM and Musikmesse, it shouldn't be long before we start seeing it for preorder now that its MSRP has been set.
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