New amp. THR-10X

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New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by Buzzard » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:49 pm

HNAD to ME. ((i))

I bought a second hand THR-10x yesterday, half price, dusty but in great condition.

Since I already have the THR-10 and THR-10c , the only software required is the Preset Library for patches: :idea: https://uk.yamaha.com/en/support/updates/57651_en.html :idea:
This library contains 23 patches, giving you a good start and idea on how to develop your own patches.

I have barely scratched the surface of the THR-10x possibilities yet, but so far I'm VERY pleased with metal sounds already available in the library.

I wasn't in a hurry to get the THR-10x because both my THR-10 and THR-10c can produce decent metal sounds ..... BUT .....
this one churns out the most wicked buzz-saw on steroids, far more powerful than expected. If I knew this before, I would have reached out sooner. :wink:

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Re: New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by Buzzard » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:17 am

Here's a good clip showing the versatility of the THR-10X
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Re: New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by jeff-carolina » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:48 am

HNAD Peter!
I've wondered how much different all the THR's sound from each other. I'm curious now to hear the metal sounds of the THR10X.

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Re: New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by Buzzard » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:30 am

Hi Jeff.

A nice surprise in the THR-10X sounds, the standard PRESET 1 makes a great Twisted Sister rythm guitar sound.
I could get that from the other two, but not quite as close, this one is spot on to my ears. ((i))
Now I'm working on getting a decent Judas Priest sound. :wink:

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Re: New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by jeff-carolina » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:08 am

Hi Peter,
Some great bands to be dialing up the sounds for sure. I bought my THR-10 new, and debated over the THR-10X (music store did not have one in stock)and ultimately decided the 10 would give me the broader range of tones. I will probably buy one also as it is so convenient and simple to practice with, compared to my other options. (I own 4 amps and 3 sets of effects pedals.) I find myself fiddling with the parameters on these options as opposed to just plugging in and playing. I use the modern setting for distorted settings but would like more options. Does this amp give you a lot of other good options for down and dirty chugging and heavy metal settings? Thank-You. (your link for the clip does not show up for me)

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Re: New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by Buzzard » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:51 pm

Hi Jeff.

If you add a distortion or overdrive pedal to further boost the signal going to your THR amp, you'll get even heavier distortion.

That being said, the THR-10X is born with some awesome metal amps built in,
and even though I can get close with my THR-10, it's just not quite the same.

If you find a good used one at a good price, I'm sure you won't regret it.

The entire forum has been modernized, and that knocked pictures and youtube clips out.
Saul has restored, and gone back for the time being to keep the forum alive,
so the clips and pictures should be available again.

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Re: New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by jeff-carolina » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:12 pm

Hi Peter,
Yes, Saul's efforts have paid off and the videos are there now. I've been looking and will grab one when the price is right. (currently most selling for almost new prices) The THR's are truly a great practice amp.

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Re: New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by Krugg » Sun May 07, 2017 3:25 am

Congratulations Buzz.

The THR10X is a super amp. When I first bought it, I was a little bit confounded by how loose the tone was on the first two Engl Powerball models, and how all the models in general could not replicate the pre-gain treble (and pre-gain mid, with the exception of the Brown models) that I often hear in modern metal (and a lot of distorted-guitar music, really). I never played through a Powerball before, and I know Yamaha says these are their own versions that are based on the analog amps, and not an attempt at replicating them, but the Powerball I and II were still quite loose (with multiple humbuckers) in comparison to YouTube demos of the real thing, different channels. I've also seen a lot of posts online of people criticizing the Engl models for being 'muddy'; it sounds almost like an insane amount of preamp gain, almost like a fuzz. The post-gain Scandinavian darkness seems to be kind of on target (despite the fact that a lot of people will not like it), but I think an overdrive with a tone knob (or eq pedal, wah), as you suggested, in front of the amp (for all the models, really), would bring it more into metal territory. I'm not sure how much this will improve the Powerball models, but I know when I put a EHX Hot Tubes in front of the Southern Hi and Brown models with the tone knob turned up, I had that extra trebly and middy bite that is pretty standard in modern metal.

I realize that people often interrupt their guitar signal with a Tubescreamer when playing high gain stuff, and a super high gain amp like the Rectifier (analog Rectifier) will actually sound a bit loose without a Tubescramer in front, so this is not a criticism of the THR10X, but I think the voicing on the amp on its own is not ideal for modern metal/high gain music in general like a 5150 or Uberschall might be (not comparing, just using those amps as reference points as far as voicing goes).
I also found the THR10 on its own has a lot more pre-gain treble and less pre-gain bass than the THR10X does irregardless of gain levels on both amps.


I should also say that a P90 sounds quite super into the X.



By the way, have you tried running the two amps together? I'm kind of in the opposite side of the fence here. I'm considering buying the THR10, and wondering how they sound together.

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Re: New amp. THR-10X

Unread post by Buzzard » Sun May 07, 2017 10:05 pm

Krugg wrote:By the way, have you tried running the two amps together? I'm kind of in the opposite side of the fence here. I'm considering buying the THR10, and wondering how they sound together.
No, not yet, but what a splendid idea. ((i))
I think a Boss LS-2 (line switch) can do the trick, once I've figured it out, I'll report back how it went.

I can recommend getting the THR-10 for other tones than THR-10X, you can probably find a nice second hand at about half price.

At the moment I produce some rather muddy metal tones on the THR-10X , but I quite like the filthy wall of sound it makes.
For less aggressive sounds, the THR-10 and THR-10C are my favorites, they can produce near metal sounds, but nothing like the THR-10X.

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