How to connect a Yamaha MG10XU mixer and M-Audio M-Track 2x2M audio interface

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How to connect a Yamaha MG10XU mixer and M-Audio M-Track 2x2M audio interface

Unread post by Strasburger » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:04 pm

Hi,

Let me please introduce myself. My name is Jose and I came to the forum as I was looking for information on Google. I am new at audio, so please don’t be too hard with me if I say some nonsense. :/:

I enter the forum hoping to find information about how to connect a Yamaha mixer with an M-Audio “audio interface”. I am really desperate because I am not able to find any specific information for these two devices and at this moment I am so absolute confused that I don’t know for sure if that is possible between these two specific systems. I have tried the forum browser but it looks there is no entry about it. If someone could help me with this I would be really grateful.

The mixer is a “Yamaha MG10XU” and the audio interface is an “M-Audio M-Track 2x2M”. The mixer is not mine, I should say “I don’t have it yet”… it belongs to a neighbor of a friend of mine that want to sell it and offers it to me for almost 1/3 of its price. He says that it works perfectly but I would like to test it and see if it does and if it is useful to me before decide to buy it.

What I normally do is just record audio from a condenser microphone (that needs phantom power) through and XLR cable connected to the microphone input [1] of my audio interface which in turn is connected to the computer. I want to do the same but using the advantage of the mixer to compress the audio and add effects directly.

Down here I put links to a few images of both devices with all its connectors numbered.
Yamaha MG10XU top and rear images:
http://imgur.com/670UZt0
http://imgur.com/SHR7JtG

M-Audio M-Track 2x2M Interface top and rear images:
http://imgur.com/gfPm9lh
http://imgur.com/TdpRcLk

What I would like to know is the way I should connect them… Is the mixer what I should connect to the audio interface and then this to the computer, or is the other way round? In any case, how could I connect the cables between both of them and witch one should be connected to the computer?… or should be both (the mixer and the audio interface) be connected to the computer at the same time? :?:
The mixer has two XLR outputs connectors, (16) and (17), and two jack connectors, (18) and (19), that the manual says they are “For connecting a powered speaker or powered amp. These jacks support both XLR and phone Plugs”; I don’t know if these could be connected to the microphone inputs [1] and [2] of the audio interface.
As you see I have a mess on my head that I don’t know where to start. :? I hope you could give me a hand on this.

If you think that this mixer is not good or you think that there is a better option please tell me about it… I am all ears! ;-) I would be willing to spend up to about the price of one of these new if there is something better… although I suppose for this price is a bargain.

Sorry me for both, the brick and my English, :oops: I hope I could had been able to express what the problem is and of course I want to thank you all in advance.

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Re: How to connect a Yamaha MG10XU mixer and M-Audio M-Track 2x2M audio interface

Unread post by Derek » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:49 am

Hello, Jose, and welcome.

Do not worry about English quality (you should hear my foreign language ability or lack of it! ) or asking any type of question. We are not the type of forum that trolls and flamers inhabit, and if they came here they would be banned. We are here to share info and experience. We also appreciate that we were all new to this once or there are always new things to learn or problems to solve.

I am a little confused about why you want to use the mixer going into another computer interface, as this particular mixer has a USB output that will provide the main mix direct to the computer. So if you use the USB out of the mixer that will be better quality than going through several interfaces. I.e. in the same way that you connect the M-AUDIO by USB to the computer, you can do this with the mixer.

BTW: I found the mixer manual here http://download.yamaha.com/api/asset/fi ... t_id=61481

But I would also ask what do you record with? Are you using a DAW like Cubase or Somar? In that case I would add any effects like compression using DAW facilities and not apply it to the signal being recorded. Why? If you make a choice on recording then you are stuck with it. Whereas if you apply effects post recording, you can experiment with different settings, and effects. etc.

Having said that, if you wish to record in the manner you are talking about it is perfectly valid and how it was done in the old days, and some people think it is better to make recording decisions that then limit you, so you are not endlessly tinkering!

If your friend is hapy to loan you the mixer to try it out, I would get the computer USB drivers for the interface, install them and try plugging the mixer into your computer via USB and try that.

Hope that helps.
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Re: How to connect a Yamaha MG10XU mixer and M-Audio M-Track 2x2M audio interface

Unread post by Strasburger » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:28 pm

Hi Derek,

Thank you very much for the welcome and for the quick reply. It is comforting to see that there are still places where everyone is treated equally regardless of his/her knowledge.
The reason I want to integrate the mixer with the audio interface us just because I don’t want to get rid of the M-Audio that it’s new, it has a few months. I don´t know if I could have both connected to the computer independently. Maybe that could be an option if it is possible but I would prefer to connect them in chain if it is possible. I had already thought that doing it the signal could be degraded, and that is other of the things I would like to test to see if the sound coming out of the chain “mixer+audio interface” would be valid or if it is useless; In that case I would stay only with the mixer… but the true is that I really like this audio interface. :P

A few years ago I remember seeing a mixer “without USB connector” and I think remember that the way it was connected was from the mixer’s main output to the audio interface input which in turn was connected to the computer. But in this case what really confused me is that the Yamaha’s main output is the USB itself, and that must be connected directly to the computer, so I don’t know if there is any other proper way to connect the mixer to the audio interface… because the only other outputs the Yamaha has are for monitoring and for a powered speakers/amplifier. I don’t really know if could be possible to take the signal from any of these outputs and carrying it to the input of the audio interface. Do you think it could be possible or it could degrade severely the signal? By the way, thank you Derek for the manual, it was the same I was looking at… I had also followed your advice of download the drivers to try also the mixer directly connected to the computer. (Y) But I still would like to experiment all possibilities and see what is better or most practical to me.

At present, the only thing I record is voice speech in Adobe Audition and then it is used in video edition with Premiere. This is the reason because I would prefer apply compression or effects directly to the voice because for me moment I know what I am going to need in advance, I mean, I follow a script. And other reason is because this is also saving for me time because in software there are so many things and options that you can tweak that sometimes is really difficult to stop… call it indecision if you want! :mrgreen:

But in the near future (this Christmas I hope) I want to gift myself a master keyboard (I am thinking a Nektar Panorama P4 or P6) and a DAW (probably Reason 9) to start paying with music. What I more like about this combination is that you can control most the DAW directly from the keyboard. I am still looking at other possible combinations but this one really attracts me.

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Re: How to connect a Yamaha MG10XU mixer and M-Audio M-Track 2x2M audio interface

Unread post by Derek » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:01 pm

Hi,

You can certainly connect the Mixer outs to the inputs of your M-Audio interface if that is what you want to do, but the general rule of thum for preserving audio quality is to have as few conversion stages as possible in a signal path. I.e. connecting the mixer to the M-Audio interface is possible (and it retains the use of the M-Audio interface), but it is not necessary.

It is your choice of course. Why not try both approaches?
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