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Re: reface cp hands-on review

Unread post by woodshedjones » Mon May 08, 2017 6:01 pm

I've given up posting on Yamahasynth.com. There's no one there responding and also it doesn't work from mobile so I'd have to go and fire up the old computer machine which rarely happens in my day to day life.

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Re: reface cp hands-on review

Unread post by Derek » Mon May 08, 2017 7:44 pm

woodshedjones wrote:Here's the reply from Yamaha UK support after I told them the way to recreate the piano sound.

"Hi Adam
Thank you for letting me know
I have had a reply from Japan to say that there is a hidden piano voice inside Reface CP, but would not say how to acquire this voice or pass on information on selecting this voice
So now that I'm aware I'm not allowed to let customers know. How frustrating
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Your Yamaha Customer Service Team"
Lovely response that shows how good people can be hampered by a corporate behemoth.
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Unread post by Saul » Mon May 08, 2017 8:04 pm

Always makes me laugh when I hear a response like that from Yamaha. It's almost like a comedy sketch or like it's permanently April 1st at Yamaha Japan.

So, WHY would they "hide" an acoustic piano inside the reface cp in the first place?

Perhaps really there is just one sample inside the reface cp and the all the sounds in it are derived from that?

Anyway as I mentioned before, Yamaha do have reasons for the way they do things. It's just a mystery to most of us why certain decisions are taken but then we are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes.

Yamahasynth.com "should" be the go to place for info but I think they have the wrong people running it. What they should have done is not bothered with it and instead invest their not insignificant resources over here, where at least people will get an answer :) Maybe they will get it eventually.
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Re: reface cp hands-on review

Unread post by m.tarenskeen » Tue May 09, 2017 1:17 pm

This review would not be complete without this amazing, recently discovered, easter egg:

Turn off the CP.
Place the instrument selector button midway between any two instruments.
Make sure it stays there when you take your hand away.
Turn on the CP.
You now have an acoustic piano sound. The instrument indicator will state RdI, even if it's actually between Clv and Toy, for example.
Turn the knob either way and it will revert to the selected instrument.

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Re: reface cp hands-on review

Unread post by Saul » Tue May 09, 2017 1:25 pm

m.tarenskeen wrote:This review would not be complete without this amazing, recently discovered, easter egg:

Turn off the CP.
Place the instrument selector button midway between any two instruments.
Make sure it stays there when you take your hand away.
Turn on the CP.
You now have an acoustic piano sound. The instrument indicator will state RdI, even if it's actually between Clv and Toy, for example.
Turn the knob either way and it will revert to the selected instrument.

:o
Yeah that's what we have actually been talking about. woodshedjones discovered it first although didn't know how he did it until recently.

Great thing to have on the reface cp though. Get rid of that useless 'Toy Piano' and give it a proper Acoustic Piano preset!
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Unread post by AJay » Wed May 10, 2017 5:29 pm

Saul wrote:@Chris They in particular took issue with my review of the Montage, will tell you about it later.
So, what did they dislike about it?
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Unread post by Saul » Wed May 10, 2017 5:55 pm

Well AJay I think in particular my comparisons with Kronos and also how expensive it was. To be fair I can be a little sarcastic at times and that probably didn't help matters however I did also say Montage was a great keyboard and I have been saying that for quite a while. In fact I have spent the best part of the last 12 months promoting the merits of Montage all over the web, through social media, youtube and various forums and discussions. It's always the negative that stands out though :(
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Re: reface cp hands-on review

Unread post by AJay » Wed May 10, 2017 6:11 pm

Did they not actually state the issue though?

I have pointed out in the past that comparisons with Kronos/Oasys isn't an apples and apples situation. Rather like comparing the SY77/TG77 to the SY85/TG500, each will do sounds that the other won't and has features that the other doesn't.
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Re: reface cp hands-on review

Unread post by Saul » Wed May 10, 2017 7:40 pm

Probably best not to go into details given recent events. Will pm you so your up to speed on what happened.
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Re: reface cp hands-on review

Unread post by AJay » Wed May 10, 2017 7:50 pm

Okie dokie.

Had a quick read through your review and couldn't find anything obvious. Certainly wasn't anything like a scathing review, maybe I missed something somewhere.
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